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Bill Payne
I think transparency and metrics benefits everyone. The entrepreneur better understand the probablity of getting funded and can decide if the application effort is worthwhile. Groups are able to benchmark themselves against other groups. Metrics encourage groups to keep their deal flow organized and timely so their "grades" stay up.
I would like to see a metric that measures the group's feedback to entrepreneurs. One of the reason we are angels is to help startups. Yet we often drop the ball when it come to giving presenters honest feedback when we choose not to do a deal.
Angelsoft is your database! When you're using it for all your deals, you'd have all these stats automatically. Thats half the value in using our system, VCs and angel groups LOVE not having to manually track these stats anymore.
Best,
Evan
Every group uses your tools in different ways. Trying to use your data does not paint an accurate story of one group versus another.
How many $100M or $200M VC funds are there? (yeah - but what size are they really)
Outside of pension funds - please show me VC, HF, PE that want to public show their data.
I would highly suggest you make the data piece optional
These are all great points, and of course, anything we do will have controls to allow groups to protect their privacy. The real question was if enough groups would be willing to share this information to make it worth building the feature at all.
Cordially,
Ryan
I am simply not going to provide my companies details or spend valuable time and resources without such historical information, what is the investors track record, what is the average amount invested, length of time to invest, what like company's have they invested in.
Rather then casting a huge net and pursuing an endless group of fruitless opportunities I want to focus on real potential opportunities, I will work with those investor groups who can provide such information, the ones that dont I wont.
Its pretty clear from everyone involved that this information is extremely valuable to all parties.
When executed appropriately, transparency can do a lot of amazing things for early stage investing:
1) establish and build an investment groups reputation/credibility
2) build trust with the entrepreneurs and set more realistic expectations
3) make investors more comfortable sharing deals and co-investing, which is something we're seeing a lot more through the economic crisis.
Am I missing any? Not only is it useful for entrepreneurs, but its crucial for trust building within the investment community.
So everyone finds the data valuable, everyone wants the data, but no one is willing to share it? Any ideas how we break the catch-22?
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Mark Tarasov, director SIA DTSP, Riga, Latvia.
e-mail: mark_tarasov@inbox.lv
Groups should not confuse privacy and lack of transparency though. The stats in the group profile are a win-win for everyone:
1. Group General managers have a concrete reason to get their angels to participate more fully if that activity is going to be publicly visible.
2. Real entrepreneurs can more effectively manage their fund-raising and NOT spam groups indiscriminately.
3. Groups can get to know each other, so they are more comfortable working together.
No group should be embarrassed about who they are. If their members don't participate during a particular season, entrepreneurs should know. If the current financial climate has slowed investment, potential partners should know. Everyone in this community, entrepreneurs, angel groups, AND VCs, tries to inflate who they are, and it doesn't help anyone.
We're all in this together. We're all trying to promote innovation, build jobs in our communities, and do something meaningful. This ENTIRE industry needs to step into the light. We'll all be more successful if it does.
Are we looking for the BEST opportunities; or just the best regional/industry opps?
How do new or innovative and alternative investment opportunities gain traction? It would seem you have the criteria and evaluation framework to identify ANY and ALL qualified opportunities. Or to identify “best of breed” of multiple opportunities. These can then be ‘filtered’ by each individual investor.
Regarding the “sharing of information” : the goal should be the same for all of us (investors / entrepreneurs / networks / groups); and that is TO GROW THE PIE so that each our slices grow bigger. Instead of approaching this as separate factions, perhaps we should be approaching this as a CONSORTIUM; each having separate objectives but all COMMON interests.
Adding and sharing information is ADDING VALUE ! Putting it bluntly, I want to be of value to you .. and I hope you want to be of value to me !!
Tom@art-investing-group.com
I hope I find you in good health and happy. I am Gary, a visual artist and independent producer, and posted a request for start up Capital, that was a while back and thankfully thus far, with all the financial turmoil, I have managed to keep my head above the choppy waters and continue doing what I do.
I established a Community Based Organization in 2005 after spending the previous 25 years in the Transportation Industry. "Art a part of life" was the motto and ARTAPART the gallery and performance venue became a reality. Our country has a vivid history and the yearning to remove the restrictions of the existing "art appreciation endeavors" led us to rightly conclude that the general public required a non pretentious facility to enjoy the best local and international exhibitions that we could host. Following on the success of the brand we opened in an area closer to a larger cross section of the population, our opening unfortunately tied in exactly with the credit crash in late 2008 and has now seen me revert back to our original concept and fulfill the mandate in other manners. My business model is unique and engages over two hundred people per annum, the turnover has increased by 33% year on year thus far and all the opportunities that abound are self made and action-ed by my creative team.
Next year 2010 sees my country hosting the FIFA World cup and the upsurge in positivity has led to numerous opportunities available to various enterprises especially within the Tourism and Entertainment industries, and it is within this cycle that I seek to modify my request for an investor. My core business revolves around Corporate Social Responsibility and assistance from formal banking avenues does not really apply and the required investment from an "Angel Investor" will see returns that are competitive in any financial manner. My business is run very informal and complete transparency is a core issue of the ongoing success, we have received the mandate for the third year in a row to host a community festival from the 22nd to the 27th February 2010, and on the 1st and 2nd of September 2009 we are producing Live Rage (See attachment) at our national State Theater, I have obtained a television contract for a local music show and I am developing a project to fix all of the children's play parks in my community. With the correct investor these projects will be realized in a sustainable manner with large growth potential.
The immediate reply from all possible avenues, has thus far amounted to "We do not have money" and my reply can only be "Its not about the money" and then go on a tangent about the lack of social responsibility and end up just doing it anyway, pure survivalist mode as an Artist creating art that everyone enjoys. I do not envisage an investor who places money in a bank account and then want nothing further to do, I would expect the investor to visit and spend at least a week in my company before making a final decision.
See you soon.
Thanks for the update. I think the investors have much to gain by transparency. They will probably find they get fewer requests, not more, by giving information entrepreneurs can use to determine their viability.
As an entrepreneur myself, I have to spend my time on many activities, including funding. To avoid spending time futilely on requests from sources that aren't interested in the first place would be much appreciated.
Keep up the good work.
-Tom Doench
Gary James Wentworth
ARTAPART the Gallery.
107 Sir Lowry Road Woodstock,Cape Town